tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post4084057566007054945..comments2023-10-24T07:13:25.354-04:00Comments on The Fashion Bomb Blog /// All Urban Fashion...All the Time: Fashion, News, and What Nots: Vogue's July IssueClairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03574200165866171870noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-46061289552569348712008-10-11T01:17:00.000-04:002008-10-11T01:17:00.000-04:00I was just reading Charles W. Mill's construction ...I was just reading <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Class-Race-Marxism-Radicalism-Critical/dp/0742513025" REL="nofollow">Charles W. Mill's construction of White Supremacy</A> this week, where he highlights the "Somatic" ( body-norm/ideal) dimension as one of the six dimensions of White Supremacy.<BR/><BR/>Basically, he says images such as those described here, "influence how people see others and how they see themselves".<BR/><BR/>He writes:<BR/><BR/>"A white 'somatic norm' assumes hegemonic standing, serving as an important contributory measure of individual worth". He talks about how Richard Dyer, author of a book called "White" documented the pervasive iconography of the white body ideal, constructing it in movies via special photography and lighting techniques for decades. Basically, Mills says the non-white body has been demarcated as alien, grotesque, ugly, and simian. Mills goes on to claim that non-whites will carry an alienation more fundamental than the one from labor - they will be estranged from their own bodies:<BR/><BR/>"Non-whites socialized into the acceptance of this somatic norm will then be alienated from their own bodies, in a sense estranged from their own physical being [read: be-ing] in the world"<BR/><BR/>It's therefore important to call out subtle imagery and media that perpetuate this dimension. And it's even more important to have a vehicle like The Fashion Bomb to celebrate the bodies of people of color so that people of color feel less alienated from themselves, prouder, and empowered with a beacon of hope they can use to defend against the somatic imagery pointed against them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-25873087917019440572008-07-07T12:42:00.000-04:002008-07-07T12:42:00.000-04:00What a wonderful post! I love your blog keep up th...What a wonderful post! I love your blog keep up the great work!<BR/><BR/>xo,<BR/>CCCalming Cornershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675111826781479169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-57619785625850502952008-06-26T19:52:00.000-04:002008-06-26T19:52:00.000-04:00I think that they absolutely should have apologize...I think that they absolutely should have apologized. It's outrageous. Oh, and that spread you called "beautiful" that detailed the important instances of black in Vogue? Did you notice the last cover featured was over a decade ago? Before Anna came on as eic? The whole thing makes me sick. Is there racism in fashion? Blatantly and more egregiously than in any other media field. Dying to pick up this months Vogue Italy though! tried to get it today but Barnes & Noble didn't have it yet.Nicole Francoishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153540881381838501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-37547822163289194552008-06-26T19:51:00.000-04:002008-06-26T19:51:00.000-04:00I think that they absolutely should have apologize...I think that they absolutely should have apologized. It's outrageous. Oh, and that spread you called "beautiful" that detailed the important instances of black in Vogue? Did you notice the last cover featured was over a decade ago? Before Anna came on as eic? The whole thing makes me sick. Is there racism in fashion? Blatantly and more egregiously than in any other media field. Dying to pick up this months Vogue Italy though! tried to get it today but Barnes & Noble didn't have it yet.Nicole Francoishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153540881381838501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-20035118275369468762008-06-24T04:02:00.000-04:002008-06-24T04:02:00.000-04:00Oh yeah I remember the 1997 July Vogue with Kiara ...Oh yeah I remember the 1997 July Vogue with Kiara Kabukuru on the cover where Anna wrote they were trying to be more open to diversity or some other bs. I found it incredibly condescending plus it was the lightest issue of the year. I sent a letter telling her I did not NEED her to validate my existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-43346338142686163732008-06-24T03:57:00.000-04:002008-06-24T03:57:00.000-04:00The country club mentality is partially correct, e...The country club mentality is partially correct, except Anna Wintour is Jewish and there are plenty of families of multi-generational wealth [the elite] who are Black. There was a time in the 70's when it was de rigeur to use Black models. It started tapering off in the 80's and 90's until now when there's hardly any. Of course they were still left out of most of the lucrative contracts. If enough people stopped buying the products of those companies that do hire Black people - aside from using models - then they would do it. We don't demand it and exact a punishment for it so it will continue. Shame only goes so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-68563986247247003682008-06-23T22:14:00.000-04:002008-06-23T22:14:00.000-04:00the issue does exist ... fashion is definitely rac...the issue does exist ... fashion is definitely racist and exclusive to the caucasion persuasion.<BR/><BR/>however, i did not see the lebron/giselle cover as racist. anyone who knows me knows that i don't miss an opportunity to call out any injustice to my people. i call it like i see it; this time, i didn't get the racist undertones that many others seemed to sense.<BR/> <BR/>either way, i hope all of this will encourage more Black publications ... all the pubs i love (suede, honey, vibe vixen) are now defunct. so let's make a statement with our wallets and support those pubs that support us!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-82475896145825167892008-06-23T17:42:00.000-04:002008-06-23T17:42:00.000-04:00All of us emerging Black Fashion Heads need to com...All of us emerging Black Fashion Heads need to come together and start our own ish...isn't this what the genealogy of the Black American experience has taught us? Did we not learn from them? <BR/><BR/>I don't subscribe to Vogue, rather I be in the lab waiting on my sisters to take the industry over!<BR/><BR/>Ready or not!A Black Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17632419691481572861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-71293444929999552692008-06-23T01:08:00.000-04:002008-06-23T01:08:00.000-04:00I think an apology would have been admitting guilt...I think an apology would have been admitting guilt. People only apologize when they are wrong. Miss Wintour does not look like the apologetic type to me. Furthermore I don't think she cares one way or another if the picture was offensive to African Americans. <BR/><BR/>Someone in that office MUST have seen how that picture looked before it went to press and brought it up, whether it be to the Editor in Chief or the Editor at Large, or just water cooler chatter, they have a responsibility to their readers. An apology to those who were offended by it should have been made. They apologize when they misprint or misquote info. Major newspapers don't make an effort to address those small issues, but one as large as this should have included some type of note from the editor. An issue with an article devoted to models of color, although appreciated, does not make for an apology nor does it deal with the issue at the heart of the matter.<BR/><BR/>VOGUE dat nah mek it! (insert Jamaican accent here)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-60393990698477562512008-06-22T10:47:00.000-04:002008-06-22T10:47:00.000-04:00I'm sure Vogue received tons of letters (I wrote o...I'm sure Vogue received tons of letters (I wrote one!), e-mails and complaints. They edited out the sound and fury to make it seem like the issue DIDN'T EXIST. Which is worse? Systematic racism where people spit in your face? Or insidious racism where they just IGNORE YOU????<BR/>At least we have forums now where we have a voice, because we still don't have a voice in their eyes. <BR/>And, honestly, that first letter sounds like it was penned in the halls of Vogue. You know they do invent letters sometimes (and throw the rest in the trash bin).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-50655432217469161372008-06-21T23:20:00.000-04:002008-06-21T23:20:00.000-04:00This is a great post. Of course they won't apologi...This is a great post. <BR/><BR/>Of course they won't apologize!!Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18165306450609872935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-64540369354732785092008-06-21T14:16:00.000-04:002008-06-21T14:16:00.000-04:00BRING BACK SUEDE!BRING BACK SUEDE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-49568279554882122392008-06-21T14:08:00.000-04:002008-06-21T14:08:00.000-04:00I agree. The Lebron and Giselle cover was definite...I agree. The Lebron and Giselle cover was definitely contrived and intentionally racist. But this is the society we live in and if we continue to support magazines such as this then they will continue to do what they do best- sweep African Americans under the rug.Candacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08231196069451091169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-69381767129590668182008-06-20T22:00:00.000-04:002008-06-20T22:00:00.000-04:00I was debating posting something about that letter...I was debating posting something about that letter to the editor on my blog but I just had to leave well enough alone. That woman is entitled to her opinion no matter how much it grates. My eyes were ROLLING when I read it, I just KNEW there would be a letter like that in this issue.Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203282439086730023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-10973771420977192912008-06-20T19:32:00.000-04:002008-06-20T19:32:00.000-04:00Yeah, this entire incident definitely rubbed me th...Yeah, this entire incident definitely rubbed me the wrong way. Of course they aren't going to apologize- at least not in the standard way (which we saw here) but you're right- an actual acknowledgement would have been pretty decent.Brittanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106181895237562516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-74464237620336595812008-06-20T16:44:00.000-04:002008-06-20T16:44:00.000-04:00It's interesting. It feels like there's a near-ins...It's interesting. It feels like there's a near-insistence at Vogue (through its pages, the attitude of its editor-in chief, the kind of people they hire) to not deal with multiculturalism period, let alone add more black models. And why should they (asking a bit sarcastially)? Likely to them, their most important constituent is white, affluent, and unconcerned with such matters (think Tinsley Mortimer and many of the other similar kinds of women they tend to feature in the editorial pages). I don't know if they believe that women of color and non-POCs who really want to see diversity make up a substantial enough portion of their subscribers to respond to those concerns. When they will really pay attention is when their readership or advertisers decide to boycott. It's the only way to make a business (and image aside, that's what they are) change: encroach on their livelihood. I'm not holding my breath because Vogue is exclusive and that is one of the things it has always prided itself on, much like the country clubs that still insist on no black or Jewish members. And we know those places don't change because their members aren't much interested in changing, anyhow. And I gather the Vogue readership with the most amount of influence may likely feel the same.<BR/><BR/>I have always wondered what Andre and any of the other POCs who work there think of this. My guess is they obviously realize the problem but no one wants to seriously take Anna Wintour to task. And believe me, I admire the woman's taste and style but let's face it, from what I have read of her background she seems to aspire to old-school British aristocracy through and through (read: it would not surprise me if she had a somewhat colonialist attitidude about race and ethnicity). I don't see her having an epiphany any time soon unless her revenue is threatened. <BR/><BR/>Good thing that media outlets like the FB and other sites have emerged. They cater to us and we can support them unabashedly or without feeling like outsiders. We need to continue to create our own thing if other publications won't give us a fair shake in theirs. As politicians sometimes say, "be interested in only those people who are interested in you."<BR/><BR/>(sorry for the long mssg)<BR/><BR/>-ANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33542856.post-54949999627313199542008-06-20T16:23:00.000-04:002008-06-20T16:23:00.000-04:00Claire Bear-I'm so over Vogue! Whatever! Don't the...Claire Bear-I'm so over Vogue! Whatever! Don't they know that African Americans are the number one consumers? They should DO BETTER! I love that they put in a little more effort than usual but let's be honest, will it last? Only time will tell. The leader of the free world will be African American, with a BEAUTIFUL African American and stylish wife standing next to him and we must be satisfied with these few pages? NO-come again. Nice START-let's see when and where it ends. <BR/><BR/>Keep it moving VOGUE! Bring back Suede!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com